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Relambrien · Aug 07, 2006, 08:47 PM // 20:47

Tyggen is mostly correct. When he refers to a Mission Critical NPC dying, it's one of those "the NPC died now the whole party sync-dies" things. It doesn't affect your chances of Survivor at all. Also, the orientation thing for Factions has you "killed" very early, yet if you type /deaths it still says 0. This is referred to as a mission where you have to die, and this death will not affect your chances of obtaining Survivor.

Mournblade · Aug 07, 2006, 11:49 PM // 23:49

Um, you mean Tyggen is totally correct, you just rephrased the answer and gave a little more detail. :P

Damaris Arcadian · Aug 10, 2006, 02:52 AM // 02:52

I have kind of a statement.. and a question. I worked pretty darn hard to earn the Survivor title with my assasin. And achieved getting lvl 1 survivor.. wich then I set my goals at gaining the lvl 2 Indomitable Survivor. To gain 587,500 exp without dyeing. Well.. I did All the Quests up to the Vizunah square mission.. gaining nearly 300,000 exp. In that mission.. Everyone dies at the end! But without the mission I couldnt advance!! And.. because it was a "required" in game death.. dureing a movie thing or whatever they call it

.. I didnt think it was fair that death counted and ruined my chance at getting the lvl 2 surivor title..

Any one else think it unfair?

(and as a side note.. I was informed by the GW support staff to post the question on the forums to obtain opinions and feedback, so please be honest.

)

Arkantos · Aug 10, 2006, 02:58 AM // 02:58

That death doesnt count...This has been confirmed before.

Damaris Arcadian · Aug 10, 2006, 03:42 AM // 03:42

unfortunatly.. It did count. Death count 1.. and the survivor title stopped gaining at 274k exp.. wich I now have 310k. And.. where does it confirm it at?? Because if thats true.. I'd like to send it to the support team.

leech · Aug 10, 2006, 03:54 AM // 03:54

you sure you didn't just die normally somewhere? i've seen posts where people have tested this

AW Lore · Aug 10, 2006, 04:17 AM // 04:17

i did vizunah with my mesmer, she is at arborstone waiting for the weekend to get a guild group to do it, s he is lvl 1 of survivor, and did vizunah square, though i skipped the cinema

xiaotsu · Aug 10, 2006, 04:18 AM // 04:18

The death doesn't count...you must not have been paying attention somewhere...

Kaguya · Aug 10, 2006, 05:23 AM // 05:23

Yeah, Vizunah Square death doesn't count. I just passed my Ritualist survivor that mission, and now up to HzH/Cavalon. Tho I have a deathcount too now, somewhere between Boreas Seabed and Sunjiang District ><; No clue where it came from :B

Damaris Arcadian · Aug 10, 2006, 06:04 AM // 06:04

I am 100% sure there was no deaths in between. I've had some realy awesome monks on my side. And a little bit of caution goes a long way. And just retested it with my Monk.. checked death count before and after the cinema.. and it counted 1 death up as well. Perhaps it was because the cinema wasnt skipped.. who knows.. but it sure is annoying to work so hard for something to lose it because of the Cinema.

Arkantos · Aug 10, 2006, 06:07 AM // 06:07

My assassin just completes vizunah, still at 0 deaths..

Damaris Arcadian · Aug 10, 2006, 06:12 AM // 06:12

Did everyone skip the cutscene?

pigfister · Aug 10, 2006, 11:20 AM // 11:20

I have a ritulist down at vasburg armory with 0 /deaths so it cannot count, you must have died in game.

Monkey Blonde · Aug 10, 2006, 05:58 PM // 17:58

If you couldn't get past Vizunah without dying, the picture in the link would not be possible. As I recall, most of my cut scenes have been skipped. Other deaths in cut scenes or as part of missions do not count, as have been tested. We should test this specific mission to be sure. However, I think it is more likely that you died during the cut scene due to damage inflicted before and during the scene ? Perhaps you had a degen hex or condition on you when the scene triggered ? Those deaths do count.

Relambrien · Aug 10, 2006, 06:07 PM // 18:07

EDIT: Had an idiot moment so posting something different.
EDIT 2: Added some stuff.

Quote:

unfortunatly.. It did count. Death count 1.. and the survivor title stopped gaining at 274k exp.. wich I now have 310k. And.. where does it confirm it at?? Because if thats true.. I'd like to send it to the support team.

You said you gained 300k experience BEFORE Vizunah Square, but your title stopped at 274k. You must've died before that. You said the same thing happened with your Monk but no one else here is experiencing that problem. Just something I thought I'd point out.

Seban Anu · Aug 10, 2006, 09:37 PM // 21:37

Mes went through viznuh, no deaths. Do think we skipped the cutscene but its hard to believe that a cinema thinger would trigger a deathcount.. :| Sorry, if thats indeed the case.

Silver_Fang · Aug 10, 2006, 09:48 PM // 21:48

it isn't the cut scene. and someone already point out the obvious flaw in the statement, he must have died somewhere way before the mission because he said it stop at 274k xp but he got 310k now, which i doubt the vizunah mission would give out that amount of xp.

Former Ruling · Aug 10, 2006, 09:55 PM // 21:55

Your experience points from where you have stated seems to tell that you died somewhere in Kaineng City before that mission, and didn't think about it til after - and assumed this cutscene did it. Deaths mean so little in this game (3 sec down time at best...) that its sometimes hard to keep count of them if you are into the game. On a Warrior I made, I assumed I hasn't died and continued to get experience for two days before I checked and found out I had died somewhere.

But, It IS Confirmed (on GuildWiki atleast, with several people confirming it) that a bug exists in the mission where you can get deaths counted during that cutscene when certain conditions are met, so its just as possible that you actually did get "shafted" sort to speak.

Runner Of Fate · Aug 10, 2006, 10:49 PM // 22:49

Well, in the vizuah square (or what ever its called :P) in the cutscene that IS counted as a death, so dont do that mission if you want to attaint survivor

Tachyon · Aug 10, 2006, 11:05 PM // 23:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Runner Of Fate

Well, in the vizuah square (or what ever its called :P) in the cutscene that IS counted as a death, so dont do that mission if you want to attaint survivor

Is that true? If so, then that certainly explains my problem. I had the Survivor (1) title and was going for the next one up. However, I 100% knew I hadn't died and yet after Vizunah I showed up as having one death.

I deleted the character and started again! At least now I know where the death was from. Man I had about an hour just sitting there wracking my brains trying to recall where I'd died.

Aug 10, 2006, 02:52 AM // 02:52	#83
Damaris Arcadian Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arizona Guild: Keepers of the Stars Profession: R/	Survivor titles I have kind of a statement.. and a question. I worked pretty darn hard to earn the Survivor title with my assasin. And achieved getting lvl 1 survivor.. wich then I set my goals at gaining the lvl 2 Indomitable Survivor. To gain 587,500 exp without dyeing. Well.. I did All the Quests up to the Vizunah square mission.. gaining nearly 300,000 exp. In that mission.. Everyone dies at the end! But without the mission I couldnt advance!! And.. because it was a "required" in game death.. dureing a movie thing or whatever they call it .. I didnt think it was fair that death counted and ruined my chance at getting the lvl 2 surivor title.. Any one else think it unfair? (and as a side note.. I was informed by the GW support staff to post the question on the forums to obtain opinions and feedback, so please be honest. )

Aug 07, 2006, 08:47 PM // 20:47	#81
Relambrien Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Delaware, USA Guild: Error Seven Operators [Call] Profession: W/	Tyggen is mostly correct. When he refers to a Mission Critical NPC dying, it's one of those "the NPC died now the whole party sync-dies" things. It doesn't affect your chances of Survivor at all. Also, the orientation thing for Factions has you "killed" very early, yet if you type /deaths it still says 0. This is referred to as a mission where you have to die, and this death will not affect your chances of obtaining Survivor.

Aug 07, 2006, 11:49 PM // 23:49	#82
Mournblade Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2005 Location: Houston, Texas Guild: Dawn Treaders [DAWN] Profession: W/Mo	Um, you mean Tyggen is totally correct, you just rephrased the answer and gave a little more detail. :P

Aug 10, 2006, 02:58 AM // 02:58	#84
Arkantos The Greatest Join Date: Feb 2006 Profession: W/	That death doesnt count...This has been confirmed before.

Aug 10, 2006, 03:42 AM // 03:42	#85
Damaris Arcadian Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arizona Guild: Keepers of the Stars Profession: R/	unfortunatly.. It did count. Death count 1.. and the survivor title stopped gaining at 274k exp.. wich I now have 310k. And.. where does it confirm it at?? Because if thats true.. I'd like to send it to the support team.

Aug 10, 2006, 03:54 AM // 03:54	#86
leech Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2006	you sure you didn't just die normally somewhere? i've seen posts where people have tested this

Aug 10, 2006, 04:17 AM // 04:17	#87
AW Lore Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2006 Guild: Ancient Warriors Gaming Clan Profession: W/Mo	i did vizunah with my mesmer, she is at arborstone waiting for the weekend to get a guild group to do it, s he is lvl 1 of survivor, and did vizunah square, though i skipped the cinema

Aug 10, 2006, 04:18 AM // 04:18	#88
xiaotsu Desert Nomad Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Doomlore Shrine Guild: Just Us Gamers [JUGs] Profession: R/	The death doesn't count...you must not have been paying attention somewhere...

Aug 10, 2006, 05:23 AM // 05:23	#89
Kaguya Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Moon Profession: Mo/	Yeah, Vizunah Square death doesn't count. I just passed my Ritualist survivor that mission, and now up to HzH/Cavalon. Tho I have a deathcount too now, somewhere between Boreas Seabed and Sunjiang District ><; No clue where it came from :B

Aug 10, 2006, 06:04 AM // 06:04	#90
Damaris Arcadian Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arizona Guild: Keepers of the Stars Profession: R/	I am 100% sure there was no deaths in between. I've had some realy awesome monks on my side. And a little bit of caution goes a long way. And just retested it with my Monk.. checked death count before and after the cinema.. and it counted 1 death up as well. Perhaps it was because the cinema wasnt skipped.. who knows.. but it sure is annoying to work so hard for something to lose it because of the Cinema.

Aug 10, 2006, 06:07 AM // 06:07	#91
Arkantos The Greatest Join Date: Feb 2006 Profession: W/	My assassin just completes vizunah, still at 0 deaths..

Aug 10, 2006, 06:12 AM // 06:12	#92
Damaris Arcadian Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Arizona Guild: Keepers of the Stars Profession: R/	Did everyone skip the cutscene?

Aug 10, 2006, 11:20 AM // 11:20	#93
pigfister Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Guild: The Guardians Of Light[GoL] Profession: N/	I have a ritulist down at vasburg armory with 0 /deaths so it cannot count, you must have died in game.

Aug 10, 2006, 09:37 PM // 21:37	#96
Seban Anu Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Sep 2005	Mes went through viznuh, no deaths. Do think we skipped the cutscene but its hard to believe that a cinema thinger would trigger a deathcount.. :\| Sorry, if thats indeed the case.

Aug 10, 2006, 09:48 PM // 21:48	#97
Silver_Fang Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Manchester UK Profession: Rt/	it isn't the cut scene. and someone already point out the obvious flaw in the statement, he must have died somewhere way before the mission because he said it stop at 274k xp but he got 310k now, which i doubt the vizunah mission would give out that amount of xp.

Aug 10, 2006, 09:55 PM // 21:55	#98
Former Ruling Grotto Attendant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cedartown, Georgia Profession: R/	Your experience points from where you have stated seems to tell that you died somewhere in Kaineng City before that mission, and didn't think about it til after - and assumed this cutscene did it. Deaths mean so little in this game (3 sec down time at best...) that its sometimes hard to keep count of them if you are into the game. On a Warrior I made, I assumed I hasn't died and continued to get experience for two days before I checked and found out I had died somewhere. But, It IS Confirmed (on GuildWiki atleast, with several people confirming it) that a bug exists in the mission where you can get deaths counted during that cutscene when certain conditions are met, so its just as possible that you actually did get "shafted" sort to speak.

Aug 10, 2006, 10:49 PM // 22:49	#99
Runner Of Fate Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2006 Location: Brookings,SD,USA Guild: Guild Of Pain Profession: Mo/	Well, in the vizuah square (or what ever its called :P) in the cutscene that IS counted as a death, so dont do that mission if you want to attaint survivor